AMD Announces Radeon R9 280: Radeon HD 7950 w/Boost Returns
by Ryan Smith on March 4, 2014 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
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With the launch of the Radeon R9 series back in October of 2013, AMD began the process of releasing a number of their existing GCN 1.0 7000 cards as faster 200 series variants. Among the first were the 7970 and 7790, which became the R9 280X and R7 260X respectively; and since then we’ve seen the 7800 series released as the 270 series and 265, and the 7770 as the 250X. At this point AMD has released a 200 series variant of every major 7000 series card except one, the 7950, which was AMD’s lower end Tahiti card.
With that in mind, word comes from today that this is finally changing. As a lot of our regular readers have been expecting, AMD will be releasing a 7950 variant in the form of the R9 280, which is being announced today. The R9 280 will be filling in the same roll that its predecessor filled, which is offering a product between a full Tahiti (280X/7970) and a full Pitcairn (270X/7870) with pricing to match, while also serving as the standard lower tier bin for salvaged Tahiti GPUs. This marks the 3rd such release for the 7950, first being released in its vanilla 7950 form, then in its 7950 with Boost form, and finally now as the R9 280.
AMD GPU Specification Comparison | ||||||
AMD Radeon R9 280X | AMD Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition | AMD Radeon R9 280 | AMD Radeon HD 7950 w/Boost | |||
Stream Processors | 2048 | 2048 | 1792 | 1792 | ||
Texture Units | 128 | 128 | 112 | 112 | ||
ROPs | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | ||
Core Clock | 850MHz | 1000MHz | ? | 850MHz | ||
Boost Clock | 1000MHz | 1050MHz | 933MHz | 925MHz | ||
Memory Clock | 6GHz GDDR5 | 6GHz GDDR5 | 5GHz GDDR5 | 5GHz GDDR5 | ||
Memory Bus Width | 384-bit | 384-bit | 384-bit | 384-bit | ||
VRAM | 3GB | 3GB | 3GB | 3GB | ||
FP64 | 1/4 | 1/4 | 1/4 | 1/4 | ||
TrueAudio | N | N | N | N | ||
Typical Board Power | 250W | 250W | 250W | 225W | ||
Manufacturing Process | TSMC 28nm | TSMC 28nm | TSMC 28nm | TSMC 28nm | ||
Architecture | GCN 1.0 | GCN 1.0 | GCN 1.0 | GCN 1.0 | ||
GPU | Tahiti | Tahiti | Tahiti | Tahiti | ||
Launch Date | 10/11/13 | 06/22/12 | 03/04/14 | 08/14/12 | ||
Launch Price | $299 | $499 | $279 | $329 |
The R9 280 isn’t quite a rebadge of the 7950B, but it’s going to be very, very close. The specs provided by AMD put the boost clock at just 8MHz higher than the 7950B, with an unknown base clock (AMD still doesn’t publish that information), and every other aspect remaining unchanged. This means we’re looking at a Tahiti GPU with 28 CUs and all 32 ROPs active. The memory specifications remain similarly unaltered, with AMD outfitting the card with 3GB of 5GHz GDDR5 on a 384-bit bus.
There will be one wildcard however, and that is Typical Board Power. The 7950B was rated for 225W while 280 is rated for 250W. Until we have a card in hand we’re not in a position to tell whether AMD has made any meaningful change here to power limits or chip binning, or if this they’re just assigning the card the 280X’s TBP for consistency’s sake. But of all of the AMD GCN 1.0 cards with PowerTune Boost, this would be the SKU where any power limit increase would be the most meaningful. 7950B required a very big step up in voltage to hit its boost state, causing it to consistently fall back to its base state and putting the card’s average clockspeed well below its top clockspeed.
Assuming for the moment that AMD hasn’t made any power limit changes, then all signs point to 280 performing virtually identical to 7950B given their similar specifications. We’ll see what the final cards are like soon enough, but unless the 280 operates closer to its top clockspeed than 7950B then it shouldn’t be meaningfully different. In which case we’d be looking at roughly 85% of the performance of the 280X.
This is going to be a pure virtual launch for AMD’s partners – AMD hasn’t sampled the press at all – so we haven’t seen any pictures or specifications for the specific SKUs partners will be offering. But at this point it’s safe to assume we’ll see the same designs that were common for the 7950B and 280X, with some overclocked SKUs thrown in for good measure.
Meanwhile for the launch of the 280 AMD has set the MSRP at $279. However retail prices will be highly questionable, as market prices are still supporting $400+ for the 280X. AMD did specifically address pricing in their announcement, stating that they expect the 280 to ease some of these Tahiti supply problems, but all we can do is wait and see.
Following the exceptional demand for the entire R9 Series, we believe the introduction of the R9 280 will help ensure that every gamer who plans to purchase an R9 Series graphics card has an opportunity to do so.
As for availability, that matter is going to be even trickier. This is another soft launch for AMD, with AMD telling us that 280 cards should be available this week with wider availability next week. But after the launches of the 250X and 265 earlier this year, AMD doesn’t have much credibility on soft launches. 250X ended up being a week and a half late, and we’re still waiting on 265 despite AMD’s target of February. So at this point we’re taking AMD’s 280 availability estimates with a grain of salt, as availability this week seems unlikely.
Finally, sizing up the competition the 280 will fall between NVIDIA’s GTX 760 and GTX 770. Where exactly it falls will depend on where street prices are once the 280 launches. At $279 it primarily goes up against the $249 GTX 760, while at street prices over $300 it would be up against the faster $329 GTX 770.
We’re going to have to wait and see what the retail cards perform like and what street prices are, but if performance is similar to the 7950B then AMD will be navigating a very tight spot at $279. In our current benchmark suite the 7950B is roughly 5% faster than the GTX 760, so AMD would have a slight performance advantage but would be at a larger price disadvantage (12%). In which case AMD will also be relying on their value added features such as Mantle and their larger 3GB of VRAM to help carry the difference.
Wrapping things up, we expect to have a 280 card in our hands a bit later this month and we should have hard performance numbers soon. So stay tuned.
Spring 2014 GPU Pricing Comparison | |||||
AMD | Price | NVIDIA | |||
Radeon R9 290 | $500 | GeForce GTX 780 | |||
Radeon R9 280X | $400 | ||||
$330 | GeForce GTX 770 | ||||
Radeon R9 280 (MSRP) | $280 | ||||
Radeon R9 270X | $270 | ||||
Radeon R9 270 | $250 | GeForce GTX 760 | |||
$190 | GeForce GTX 660 |
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nathanddrews - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
In a world without BTC, this card should be $199. I bought a 7950B brand new off Amazon last September for $185 (after $10 rebate), before BTC hysteria kicked in. Now I wish I had bought 10 of them.piroroadkill - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
Nobody is mining BTC with AMD cards these days, they're mining scrypt-based cryptocurrencies, like Litecoin, and many a Litecoin-clone, such as Dogecoin.Aegrum - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
... and then turning those coins into BTC so they can cash out in their local currency. I don't think he said they were used for BTC mining directly. Many miners just mine on pools that mine whatever the most profitable scrypt coin is of the day, and then auto-exchanges that into BTC for them, places like middlecoin, wafflepool, and hashcows.nathanddrews - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
I apologize for not being specific. BTC = LTC to the layman.Flunk - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
I bought two 7950B last year for $199.99 each. I sold them last month for $305.00 and $312.00. How does that make sense? Heck, I even used them to mine LTC for a year in between.dew111 - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
I think this mining thing is crazy. I have dual 7950s and tried mining for like an hour. But it was really loud, and I didn't like the thought of running my gaming machine like that all the time. Plus, conceptually, the idea of 'free money' isn't something I buy into. As more people start doing it, the individual contribution goes down, making it less profitable every day, meaning for most people it's a waste of money. Meanwhile, they're ruining it for people who want AMD cards for actual gaming.shaw - Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - link
MSRP - $280Newegg price - $400
coinminingrigs - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Hindsight is 20/20. You could have made a bundle. :) These cards are solid performers for Litecoin mining and were featured prominently on our site at www.coinminingrigs.com until the R9 270 became a better deal. Now I'm looking forward to featuring the R9 280 as the best value mining card. Let's hope they can keep the supply chain stocked enough this time around to keep the price from spiking so high.Da W - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
The funny thing is that for the first time, i went to Nvidia because it was CHEAPER. Good thing for AMD though, whatever your side is, AMD has to be kept alive.Wreckage - Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - link
AMD's response to Maxwell is a rebadge...I don't think they want to stay around.