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  • toffty - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    HP dropped the ball if they're not supporting DisplayPort 1.2a. I've loved my HP ZR24w and was looking forward to buy a new HP Z 24 or 27 but if they're not supporting adaptive sync I'll look elsewhere.
  • edzieba - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Adaptive Sync is an OPTIONAL portion of 1.2a. Even if a display is 1.2a compliant, that does not mean it supports Adaptive Sync. The same goes for DP 1.3.
  • Klimax - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Frankly, there is no evidence yet that Adaptive sync works as advertised. (No reviews yet) And these are not gaming displays anyway, but for professional use.
  • Senti - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    "Gaming displays"? Do you think professionals wouldn't be happy with smooth rendering?
    Adaptive sync would either work or not – there is no "as advertised" concern.
  • Samus - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link

    You missed his point. Just because a monitor supports DisplayPort 1.2a or 1.3 doesn't indicate the panel supports adaptive sync or frequency over 60hz. Currently there is no IPS or PVA-class panel in production that can officially refresh over 60hz. Some can be overclocked to 75hz or more but this is ymmv and can damage the display and electronics long-term.

    I agree, it's unfortunate 120hz/144hz isn't more common, but we need a newer panel technology before it becomes mainstream unless you're willing to go back to crappy TN or expensive VA panels.
  • toffty - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link

    What's the need for 120hz or 144hz anymore? The reason such refresh rates were created were to make the tearing unnoticeable since the screen was refreshing fast enough. With both G-Sync and A-Sync the tearing problem is removed. As long as they both live up to their names, very few will be able to tell the difference between a 60, 120, or 144 hz monitor.
  • zepi - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    European web-retailers are taking preorders for the Dell 5K display for about ~1500€. Considering that current EUR-USD exchange rate and the fact that this includes ~20% VAT it seems to be way under the Dell's US MSRP.

    http://geiz hals.de/dell-ultrasharp-up2715k-210-adrz-a1192924.html
  • ws3 - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Apple destroyed Dell's and HP's pricing plans for this panel by pricing their whole computer at the price Dell was planning to ask just for the monitor.
  • Impulses - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Hmm, still not sure if I'm sold on 5K at 27"... Almost seems like I'd wanna go larger if going 5K. I wouldn't mind a 27" UHD IPS w/120Hz refresh rate. Guess I'm sticking with my 3x24" for a while more...
  • Drumsticks - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    I think I'd personally love just a 24" 4k screen, but I need to see much better dpi scaling out of Windows before it can happen ;(
  • DanNeely - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    5k @ 27" (220 dpi) is a doubled 1440p screen; which is why I'm not surprised that they've started there. That said I'd also prefer a 32/33" (180 dpi) version myself. It'd be 16" tall which would play nicer with my existing 16" tall monitors (2x 1200x1600 20", 1x 2560x1600 30"). For non-highDPI aware apps it wouldn't be perfect because the 2:1 scaling would have them running at 90dpi on the 5k vs 100dpi elsewhere; but IIRC all the major browsers are highDPI aware now; and they're ~90% of the apps I bounce between monitors today.
  • akdj - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    As much as I've enjoyed the iPhone 4--->6+, the Note 4 (business line). The transition to HiDPI panels with the 'new' iPad (3) through today's Air2 (Wow, what a machine!) ....including my past two years and four months with my 15" rMBP ...I won't hesitate for a second on this size, or the 23.x" (can't remember, but a 24" would be over double the surface area I've lived with on my rMBP!) as my 44 year old eyes aren't gettin' no better!
    With my OSx machines, for sure. I'm a bit Leary on my Win 8.1 machine though.
  • bsd228 - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    The point to a 5k display, I'd say, is that you can view/edit a 4k image/video and have space for the actual image as well as the menu bars around it.
  • Azethoth - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link

    I got the Apple 30" a long time ago. Downgrading to 27" after that sucked so last year I got the Asus 4k 33" monitor. Perfect size for programming finally. Larger would be too much looking around, smaller and you cannot get 2 files + toolbars and panels open at the same time.

    All I need now is better color spectrum and refresh rates / response times (I sometimes see flicker at 60Hz). Oh yeah, and MS needs to stop sucking at 4k. Their (Windows 8.1) dpi scaling leaves things fuzzy, and manually picking larger fonts is a total mess. Also, AMD needs to get their driver shit straight. Constantly resetting the panel back to 4k resolution and as the main panel every time a gnat sneezes anywhere near it or hibernate kicks in sucks.
  • ioconnor - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    HP missed the large monitors in their spanning the gamut. A 2560x1600 at close to 40", possibly curved, would be in huge demand. As it is there is nothing here even remotely interesting to me.
  • DanNeely - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    At 42", that's only 72 DPI. While I'm sure there are some people out there who'd prefer the larger text/image sizes; outside of the digital signage market I'm not sure there'd be enough demand to pay for it. For general use high DPI and DPI aware software is the way to go; for legacy apps a similar effective DPI can be achieved on ~200 DPI monitors by using a 3:1 scaling factor anyway.
  • Wolfpup - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    I normally buy Dell, but I just bought a 24" HP with "Beats" speakers, because it seems to be the only decent monitor anyone makes with decent speakers. Glad to see they didn't introduce anything better for my needs LOL (It's really not a bad monitor so far and for my needs the speakers are pretty great...way better than the notebook I had in the same location at any rate.)
  • iceman-sven - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    I really hope the HP Z27q has more than 2xDP1.2 inputs.

    There is no mention of the input in the official press release. So I hope there make not the same mistake like Dell. A >$1000 monitor should at least have 2, better 3 workable inputs witch full resolution@max Refresh-rate.

    My HP LP3065 is getting old(9 years in a few months). I need a proper replacement. My HP has 3 DVI ports and I use all of them(work & game PC + a MacPro 2010).
  • Brett Howse - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Datasheet shows 2xDP1.2 only on the Z27q http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2015/...
  • iceman-sven - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Thanks

    :-(
    Now waiting for LG and EIZO to make a monitor from this panel. Or Belkin, maybe Aten make a DualDP Mulitport Switch.
    I do not want to use DisplayPort extension cables for switching to a different PC.
  • McGruberrr - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    Where is DP 1.3?? The 1.3 standard was announced well over a year ago and I was really hoping/expecting to see 1.3 monitor announcements this CES.. hopefully someone else can deliver.
  • DanNeely - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link

    The standard wasn't finalized until last September. My guess for being able to use DP1.3 is at least 9-12 months out; when the next generation of GPUs launches...
  • bobbozzo - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link

    Are these 16:9 or 16:10 displays?

    Thanks!

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