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  • bubblyboo - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    8-core in same chassis = race to throttle
  • brian_Sal05 - Thursday, May 23, 2019 - link

    That's my main concern, but nobody seems to be talking about it
  • web2dot0 - Saturday, May 25, 2019 - link

    Initial reviews says NO PROBLEM. Their 8-core chassis have been retrofitted with a high speed fan to dissapate the heat.
  • Retycint - Sunday, May 26, 2019 - link

    TechRadar's review reports an average clockspeed of 2.99GHz, dropping down to a minimum of 2.50GHz, during a 1hr 13 mins video encoding session. Which isn't bad, by all means, but it's still throttling quite a bit.

    And before anyone hits me with the "oh it's not running below base clock hence it's not throttling", base clock is irrelevant because Intel changes the base clock at will, in order to squeeze it into the 45W TDP (base clock went from 2.9 to 2.4GHz for i9-8950HK and i9-9880HK respectively). So base clock is a largely irrelevant metric and it would be foolish to use base clock as a metric for throttling
  • Retycint - Sunday, May 26, 2019 - link

    Admittedly, this issue is not unique to Apple. The XPS 15 i9-8950HK config has also shown similar throttling, and no doubt the 9880HK variant (when it releases) will throttle even more, due to 2 additional cores.

    So perhaps the moral of the story is to not buy an i9 fitted inside a thin and light chassis unless your workload really, really, benefits from the 2 extra cores, versus higher clockspeeds for the i7 variant
  • solarisking - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    It's un-fu****g-believable that Apple still sells a $2399 laptop with only a 256GB SSD. AND has the gall to charge 200 bucks on top of that to upgrade to a 512GB SSD. No thanks. If Apple doesn't change their ways by this time next year I'll likely be leaving the Apple ecosystem.
  • Ninhalem - Thursday, May 23, 2019 - link

    Why are you so surprised? This is the same pricing model as more than a decade ago. You're not being charged for just the hardware but the tight knit integration between the hardware and the software. You're not going to get the consistent level of performance from any other machine a decade after the manufacture date.
  • sa666666 - Friday, May 24, 2019 - link

    What does "tight-knit integration" have to do with charging $200 extra for 256GB SSD? How does integration in any way justify the huge price of a component upgrade that doesn't use Apple software at all?

    Not sure if this is satire (it very well may be), but if it isn't, it just goes to show that Apple users will swallow anything.
  • solarisking - Friday, May 24, 2019 - link

    That's not true. My 2012 MBP was $2,000, $400 less than the entry model 15" MBP. Apple even briefly had an $1800 version for a few years. The Apple premium with comparable parts to PCs has historically been around $200. That's fine by me but when the entry level 15" is $2400 I have to balk at the egregious pricing. Not to mention faulty keyboard design and lack of ports.
  • web2dot0 - Saturday, May 25, 2019 - link

    Try find a 8-core i9 with 87Wh laptop in 4lbs form factor. Then complain about 256GB SSD.
  • Retycint - Sunday, May 26, 2019 - link

    You mean the MSI P65? 82Wh battery, 1.9kg. Which comes with a RTX 2070, 1TB SSD, 32GB RAM for just $500 more ($2900)

    Apple is overcharging, and you know it
  • Retycint - Sunday, May 26, 2019 - link

    Okay it seems I didn't read the article properly, and the i9 config for MBP is actually $2800. Which makes for a greater contrast, in fact
  • aznchum - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    Looks like the pricing in the tables are wrong.
  • znd125 - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    so many typos
  • Teckk - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    Why not include a 15-inch model without the Touch Bar ! :( :(
  • peevee - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    " the notebooks are equipped with a 3.5-inch headset jack."

    The jack ("jack"?) must look like a floppy drive...
  • Vitor - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    3.5 inch is a hell of robust connection, hope it's balanced :P
  • Death666Angel - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    That's enought to carry hundreds of amps at mains voltage. Turn it up to 11, indeed! :D
  • shabby - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    Good news everyone, this new keyboard is already covered by the replacement warranty lol
  • ButIDontWantAUsername - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    So Apple could barely run the i9-8950HK without it throttling down below the base clock, and now they're adding 2 more cores? Are they improving the cooling solution to adequately cool the VRMs this time?
  • danwat1234 - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    Nope! Ridiculous.
  • web2dot0 - Saturday, May 25, 2019 - link

    They added a high speed fan to resolve the heat issue. Initial test shows that its NO PROBLEM
  • Dug - Wednesday, May 22, 2019 - link

    I wish Windows could handle the DCI-P3 Gamut like Apple does. Apple somehow makes things look correct all the time no matter what the material is.
  • ksec - Thursday, May 23, 2019 - link

    Thank you Anton and Anandtech. Sometimes I just feel I should paid money to read this site. It is that good. Out of the roughly 20+ Site I surf, NONE has made a table to list the previous gen and current gen. Pricing and Spec.

    Only Anandtech make the extra step to do this.
  • ksec - Thursday, May 23, 2019 - link

    Although the table of Pricing in 8 Core is listed as $2399, it should be $2799, which the text in the article got it right.
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, May 23, 2019 - link

    I'm glad someone else found that useful.=)
  • Oxford Guy - Saturday, May 25, 2019 - link

    People are worried about throttling. How about disabling Hyperthreading and other things outfits like Apple and Google advocate? Intel inside!
  • web2dot0 - Sunday, May 26, 2019 - link

    throttling issue have been resolve in the i9 8core laptop using a high speed fan.
  • DougDolde - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    I'll never buy a Touch Bar laptop

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