Only FALD /like/? Either this is marketing guff to avoid stating this TV lacks a FALD backlight, or Samsung's ad copy writer has no idea what FALD means. For $15k it damn well better have a full array backlight and not local edge-dimming!
Okay just checked and the various FALD features are the same as the Q9, namely: Direct Full Array Elite, Q Contrast Elite, Ultra Black Elite, so it probably has the same FALD system. Other than the loss of detail (intentional black crush to raise contrast nearer to OLED) the FALD system is good.
I remember walking in to a Circuit City in Manhattan and hanging up was one of the early LCD TVs on the wall facing the entrance, Philips 42". $15,000 was the price on the tag.
Buying this TV now would be a worse idea than buying an HDTV in 1994. In just over a year TVs will switch over to targeting the full rec.2020 color gamut, and TVs targeting DCI will be left behind. There's no 8K content now, and when there is there's no guarantee that this TV will be able to receive it, as the standards have not been set yet. In a few years these TVs will be as valuable as 4K 30fps sets are today.
Also even 85" is a bit too small for 8K. I think you need 100"+, maybe 120"+ for 8k to really start to make any perceptible difference at all. So TV set manufacturers should probably focus more on making bigger TVs first, and then that will create a market for 8K+ resolutions.
Target customers for this TV will probably be able to afford a newer and better model whenever it comes out. Future proofing is less of a concern for them.
But that One Box Connect seems to lack other features like Optical Audio In/Out (Thought HDMI with ARC can handle it also), And while HDMI 2.1 can handle DRR now, I really hope to see at least one DP port in that box also. Not a necessary thing but at 15K, you should have more options at least.
I'm not buying any new TV's until they have 2.1, too much new features and bandwidth on the table, and until mini and microleds make their appearance my next TV will be OLED.
why even bother with 8K .. some studios (content creators) now won't even create "true" 4K discs and they have the nerve to sell it as a "4K" disc .. talk about "fake news" .. these studios have no problem sleeping at night selling their "fake 4K" as "4K" to the consumers .. everyone WAKEUP!! .. refuse to buy anything "fake 4K" .. otherwise .. when 8K is the norm .. why would the content creators make "true 8K" (think about the amount of data that a true 8K would require .. they can barely fit a true 4K on a disc right now) .. if the consumers buy "fake 4K" now .. they will surely buy "fake 8K" later .. why bother making "true 8K" discs?!!
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edzieba - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
" including QLED FALD-like backlighting"Only FALD /like/? Either this is marketing guff to avoid stating this TV lacks a FALD backlight, or Samsung's ad copy writer has no idea what FALD means. For $15k it damn well better have a full array backlight and not local edge-dimming!
bubblyboo - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
At least this year everything Q8 and up has FALD of some sort. I doubt they'd just regress on the newest top end model in terms of FALD.bubblyboo - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Okay just checked and the various FALD features are the same as the Q9, namely: Direct Full Array Elite, Q Contrast Elite, Ultra Black Elite, so it probably has the same FALD system. Other than the loss of detail (intentional black crush to raise contrast nearer to OLED) the FALD system is good.Trackster11230 - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Is the HDMI in use 2.1? Is that even out yet?Kevin G - Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - link
HDMI 2.1 can be provided today via FPGAs on the video driver boards. True HDMI 2.1 chips have yet to ship.Lazlo Panaflex - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
$15K??? Jesus wept....gfkBill - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Kids these days. A little over 20 years ago, that would have got you a 42" SD Plasma.ajp_anton - Tuesday, October 9, 2018 - link
And it was an equally insane price back then.Gasaraki88 - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - link
I remember walking in to a Circuit City in Manhattan and hanging up was one of the early LCD TVs on the wall facing the entrance, Philips 42". $15,000 was the price on the tag.wrkingclass_hero - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Buying this TV now would be a worse idea than buying an HDTV in 1994. In just over a year TVs will switch over to targeting the full rec.2020 color gamut, and TVs targeting DCI will be left behind. There's no 8K content now, and when there is there's no guarantee that this TV will be able to receive it, as the standards have not been set yet. In a few years these TVs will be as valuable as 4K 30fps sets are today.twtech - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Also even 85" is a bit too small for 8K. I think you need 100"+, maybe 120"+ for 8k to really start to make any perceptible difference at all. So TV set manufacturers should probably focus more on making bigger TVs first, and then that will create a market for 8K+ resolutions.Senectus - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Yes, exactly.85" is indeed too small for an 8K TV and it's also too big for an 8K monitor... so it suits neither purpose.
8K would be great for a 120" TV or a 46" HiDPI PC monitor.
Beaver M. - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
More like 140", at average couch distance.p1esk - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Target customers for this TV will probably be able to afford a newer and better model whenever it comes out. Future proofing is less of a concern for them.Lolimaster - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
To this TV feature the new miniLED backlight?miniLED is supposed to bring FALD zones in the range of 2000-50,000, making it the final evolution of non-self emissive displays.
philehidiot - Monday, October 8, 2018 - link
Did they fix the problems with early quantum dot displays where they had a blueish tinge around the edge?Xajel - Tuesday, October 9, 2018 - link
I suppose this should support FreeSync 2 also.But that One Box Connect seems to lack other features like Optical Audio In/Out (Thought HDMI with ARC can handle it also), And while HDMI 2.1 can handle DRR now, I really hope to see at least one DP port in that box also. Not a necessary thing but at 15K, you should have more options at least.
Zoolook - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - link
I'm not buying any new TV's until they have 2.1, too much new features and bandwidth on the table, and until mini and microleds make their appearance my next TV will be OLED.g25host25its - Thursday, October 11, 2018 - link
why even bother with 8K .. some studios (content creators) now won't even create "true" 4K discs and they have the nerve to sell it as a "4K" disc .. talk about "fake news" .. these studios have no problem sleeping at night selling their "fake 4K" as "4K" to the consumers .. everyone WAKEUP!! .. refuse to buy anything "fake 4K" .. otherwise .. when 8K is the norm .. why would the content creators make "true 8K" (think about the amount of data that a true 8K would require .. they can barely fit a true 4K on a disc right now) .. if the consumers buy "fake 4K" now .. they will surely buy "fake 8K" later .. why bother making "true 8K" discs?!!