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  • p1esk - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    The bezels... just wow.
  • shabby - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    This isn't a smartphone.
  • boeush - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    And the reasoning that applies to smartphones doesn't apply to laptops, because... uh... ???
  • Spunjji - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    Remind us again why it applies to smartphones well past the point of absurdity we're currently reaching...
  • BurntMyBacon - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    Most laptops aren't meant to be used one handed, for one. Large bezels on smartphones mean you need to sacrifice usable display area in an already size constrained device, or hinder the use of the device by making it significantly larger than it needs to be for the same functionality. This can mean the difference between a device that is usable with one hand and one that isn't

    While I don't like massive bezels, smartphone bezels have reached the point of diminishing returns and there is little value is pushing for smaller. With laptops, where the display is less size constrained, I'd argue that thermal constraints, antenna placement, structural integrity, ease of screen replacement, finger hold for opening/closing the clam shell without touching the display, adding just a little elevation to the display so that I'm not obscuring the bottom of the screen with my hands while typing, etc. are more important that having the smallest possible bezel.

    On the other hand, there are many unnecessarily wide bezels to be found in laptops as well, so I don't fully disagree with the OP statement (it's an opinion), just the idea that the same reasoning that applies to smartphones should apply to laptops.
  • boeush - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    Gimme a break...

    Antenna placement?!? If a bezel-less smartphone can cram not just the WiFi but also a 4G antenna (not to mention Bluetooth) into a relatively tiny rectangle, then surely a far larger, thicker laptop with a hinge and 4 effective mounting surfaces could accomplish half as much?

    Laptop displays are not size-constrained?!? Have you ever tried using a laptop display to, oh I don't know, browse the Web? Or edit a document, maybe?

    The other rationalizations you attempt to make are just more after-the-fact straw-grasping.

    The only real underlying reason for this ongoing crap-fest with laptop displays, is that consumers are willing to get rolled and not raising an eyebrow about it. Yet, if the likes of DELL's XPS 15 are any indication, at least some consumers are starting to demand more - and at least some ODMs are beginning to figure out how to do better...
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link

    You're really revved up about what is effectively an opinion, and at that a poorly sourced one. Yes, antenna placement is relevant in a laptop. They have a lot more mass to block signal with so you can't just stick them anywhere on the chassis. Check a few reviews for examples.

    Resilience is one of the bigger issues. A laptop has more mass and is less likely to be in a case 24/7 so it needs to handle drops with an order of magnitude more energetic force.

    Then there's webcam placement... ugh. So sure, some consumers want more. Some are getting it. But while that option adds cost, reduces studiness of the device and reduces the manufacturer's choice of available panels, we're still going to see this. Maybe calm down a little.
  • PeachNCream - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    It's trendy to complain about them now.
  • WorldWithoutMadness - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    Hahaha, we really need a mature google glass/vr like display. People wont complain anymore about bezel.
  • SirPerro - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    The bezels are necessary because the combination of factors:

    - They need the size of the laptop base for themal reasons
    - They can only source displays available in the market

    So if they couldn't find screens matching their thermal design they had to choose between reducing the thermal headroom to reduce the overall size of the laptop to reduce the bezels.

    IMHO it would be cool to have that particular laptop as-is but with an "infinity edge" 17" display, but that may very well be impossible with current available parts.
  • BurntMyBacon - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    In addition, they need a place to put the wireless antennas and camera. Somehow, I don't think the notch fad will make its way to more productive devices like laptops. Of course, I have been wrong in the past about what manufacturers will try to force onto consumers.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link

    I keep wondering what happened to the short-lived 16.4" display class, as it ought to be ideal for making a bezel-less display in a large-format 15.6" gaming chassis.
  • tecknot - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    Hi Joe. It appears you have a typo in the 5th paragraph regarding networking and connectivity options. It reads that the i7-8750H model is capable of 1.73 Mbps speed, but the specs table indicates speed up to 1.73 Gbps.
    One question, can you tell us how many storage disc drives the Evo15-S can hold? Not sure if it has just two internal connection options (SATA/PCIe) or can have three drives installed. Kind regards, tecknot

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