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  • K_Space - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    Given that the military/intelligence sector has typically a significant lead over the consumer sector, I wonder how long has NSA/others had access to these or better functions for?
    Out of interest, is there an Apple equivalent to this?
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    I think you're a bit confused here or perhaps misworded your post.

    No, they don't have a significant lead; the contractors that the military/intelligence government organizations contract have a significant lead, and due to contractual agreements, the government then owns these designs. It would be fair to say that the general military sector has a significant lead, when a typical marine in training on some naval base in Alaska might just be using a government laptop that's 6 years old, and that's only because that's all the government had to offer.

    The reason I make this distinction is because it's easy for a reader to read your comment and believe that the goverment is this high-tech body, far outside the reach of normal people. In reality, the vast majority of government workers are still using HP and Dell workstations half a decade old or older, including first responders like 911 and fire departments.

    tl;dr
    government is incredibly large, slow, and low tech.
    companies that want to get contracted by the government (think Boeing, etc) are super high tech.

    Big difference.
  • BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    Large institutions, corporations included, are behind the cutting edge when it comes to their own infrastructures and information technologies. While those companies are indeed developing advanced devices that do amazing things, their employees are usually performing daily work on relatively old hardware supported by older network plumbing and dated server farms. The corporate world is staring down the same problems government institutions deal with and some may actually be on longer hardware life cycles than their govt counterparts because they are profit-driven.
  • tuxRoller - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    Well said. That mirrors my experience.
  • K_Space - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link

    Nicely worded and that is what I meant! As a public sector worker I can tell you we're the last people to shift up a gear and only if we have to. Great example was the move from XP to 7 I think it was 18month ago now, simply because MS no longer patched the OS.
  • Dribble - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    MS hololens already does this, so it's not new in the consumer space either.
  • extide - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    Not quite the same though....
  • name99 - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    What exactly do you imagine it is that hololens "already does"?
    The point of Tango is not AR, or user gestures; it is the use of computer vision to place one's 3D location in space without the use of traditional placement technologies like GPS.

    Regardless of the issue of whether or not this is a worthwhile idea as a business project (as opposed to a research project, because it is possible that Bluetooth beacons or other technologies like spraying out IR grids will make the point moot before it's really perfected) as far as I know this is not part of the Kinect/Hololens suite of capabilities.

    There is a second point which is that Google will, presumably, situate this within a larger framework of Indoor Maps. No-one has a useful Indoor Mapping story right now. Apple talked about for iOS 8, but shipped nothing that year or the next (and hasn't mentioned it for iOS 10); and Google has shipped nothing either, except that they both support a few very large indoor ares like malls, through traditional location technologies. It seems unlikely, given MS' general inability to actually execute over the past few years, that MS will ship a viable version of such a large product before Apple and Google.
  • Michael Bay - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link

    >desperate crapple shilling
    >obligatory antims bullshit

    I knew it was you before checking the nickname, dude. ^_^
  • ats - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link

    To put in perspective, the military has hardware capable of traveling 13,000 km with an error of under 200m without using GPS. The military has other hardware that can travel 12,000 km with an error of under 90m in a GPS denied environment.

    Both of these of course are ICBM/SLBMs. ICBMs/SLBMs tend to have the most advanced and in some regards most complicated inertial navigation systems in the world. None of the ICBMs have even a fraction of the computing power of a modern smartphone, but what they do have is incredibly precise measuring instruments. In addition, they've been using things like using images to counter error for decades (which is what astro-inertial guidance is, you look at star positions and their movement to help calibrate error).
  • MarkPi - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link

    See Occipital's mixed reality Bridge Engine running on iOS:
    http://forums.structure.io/t/occipital-bridge-engi...
  • versesuvius - Wednesday, July 27, 2016 - link

    People's private spaces and places has made Google a multi hundred billion dollar company. Now you just have to turn your phone on and Google or a partner of Google will have your private places better than you ever had them. What Google wants to have to do with it? Well, that is largely irrelevant by the time it is done. Google is counting on the undisputed fact that nobody cared before and nobody will care then.
  • sonicmerlin - Thursday, July 28, 2016 - link

    This would be so awesome if combined with Pokemon go.

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