Notebook Trio: ASUS A8JS and G2P and ABS Mayhem Z5
by Jarred Walton on December 29, 2006 12:15 PM EST- Posted in
- Laptops
Battery Life
Having easily swept the gaming benchmarks, the ABS Mayhem Z5 now faces its most difficult task: battery life. First, let's take a look at the MobileMark 2005 results. Note that in this case, the power saving features were left enabled and we will not be retesting as few people are willing to sacrifice battery life for a bit more performance on the road.
As expected, the ABS laptop - with its smaller battery compared to the G2P - provides rather abysmal battery life. Even if you turn down every performance setting possible, you're not likely to break two hours of battery life. For whatever reason, the default power profile on the ABS laptop results in much lower performance than that of the ASUS laptops. Not only does it provide less battery life, but the performance in the MobileMark 2002 productivity test is 40% lower than the other Core 2 Duo T7200 equipped laptops. It's interesting that even the XPS M1710 with a Core Duo processor is able to post significantly better results, so perhaps ABS and their partners can do some additional performance tuning to help improve performance without sacrificing battery life.
Moving beyond the ABS results, the ASUS G2P and A8JS provide similar performance, but the A8JS clearly provides better battery life. The larger and brighter display definitely takes a toll here, though the ATI X1700 does appear to do quite a bit better when it comes to DVD playback. We have noticed in the past that NVIDIA chipsets appear to consume more power during DVD decoding than roughly equivalent ATI chipsets, so if you are purely interested in a laptop that will be used for watching movies on the road, picking up something with a Radeon Mobility X1300-X1700 chipset is probably the best way to go. Unfortunately, good performance results in DVD playback do not translate to better 3D performance, and at present the fastest ATI Radeon Mobility product is a rather outdated X1800.
Kicking things up to the next level, we tested how long the laptops could manage to run a reasonably complex 3D gaming title in battery mode with the display set to maximum brightness. (It's really not practical to play games without cranking up the brightness levels on most laptops.) For this test, we looped the three 3DMark05 gaming benchmarks continually until the battery ran out. Informal testing with a few other actual games - Company of Heroes in particular - shows that battery life for a complex 3D game will actually be lower than what we show here, as the CPU and audio subsystems will typically be more involved. We chose to use 3DMark05 because it is easiest to set up a repeatable test that will last more than an hour. As you can see, the ABS system lasted one hour and the other two laptops lasted close to 90 minutes. Keep in mind the performance offered by the various graphics solutions, however, as lasting a bit longer on battery life may not mean much if the overall gaming experience isn't acceptable.
The worst part about the battery life results is that they basically highlight a fundamental issue with laptops: you can't get high-performance and long battery life in the same package, for the most part. That goes doubly when it comes to 3D/gaming performance, as NVIDIA and ATI have been in an arms race where power use has been a secondary or even tertiary concern next to winning the performance crown. ATI's current desktop parts consume so much power that it is basically impractical to consider putting an X1950 type GPU into a laptop (though the X1950 Pro might be able to work with some modifications). GeForce 8800 doesn't do much better these days, and it might be awhile before we see a GeForce Go product based off the G80 chipsets. For now, the fastest laptop GPUs are the GeForce Go 7900/7950 GTX products, although if you want even more performance there are also some SLI laptops available.
Having easily swept the gaming benchmarks, the ABS Mayhem Z5 now faces its most difficult task: battery life. First, let's take a look at the MobileMark 2005 results. Note that in this case, the power saving features were left enabled and we will not be retesting as few people are willing to sacrifice battery life for a bit more performance on the road.
As expected, the ABS laptop - with its smaller battery compared to the G2P - provides rather abysmal battery life. Even if you turn down every performance setting possible, you're not likely to break two hours of battery life. For whatever reason, the default power profile on the ABS laptop results in much lower performance than that of the ASUS laptops. Not only does it provide less battery life, but the performance in the MobileMark 2002 productivity test is 40% lower than the other Core 2 Duo T7200 equipped laptops. It's interesting that even the XPS M1710 with a Core Duo processor is able to post significantly better results, so perhaps ABS and their partners can do some additional performance tuning to help improve performance without sacrificing battery life.
Moving beyond the ABS results, the ASUS G2P and A8JS provide similar performance, but the A8JS clearly provides better battery life. The larger and brighter display definitely takes a toll here, though the ATI X1700 does appear to do quite a bit better when it comes to DVD playback. We have noticed in the past that NVIDIA chipsets appear to consume more power during DVD decoding than roughly equivalent ATI chipsets, so if you are purely interested in a laptop that will be used for watching movies on the road, picking up something with a Radeon Mobility X1300-X1700 chipset is probably the best way to go. Unfortunately, good performance results in DVD playback do not translate to better 3D performance, and at present the fastest ATI Radeon Mobility product is a rather outdated X1800.
Kicking things up to the next level, we tested how long the laptops could manage to run a reasonably complex 3D gaming title in battery mode with the display set to maximum brightness. (It's really not practical to play games without cranking up the brightness levels on most laptops.) For this test, we looped the three 3DMark05 gaming benchmarks continually until the battery ran out. Informal testing with a few other actual games - Company of Heroes in particular - shows that battery life for a complex 3D game will actually be lower than what we show here, as the CPU and audio subsystems will typically be more involved. We chose to use 3DMark05 because it is easiest to set up a repeatable test that will last more than an hour. As you can see, the ABS system lasted one hour and the other two laptops lasted close to 90 minutes. Keep in mind the performance offered by the various graphics solutions, however, as lasting a bit longer on battery life may not mean much if the overall gaming experience isn't acceptable.
The worst part about the battery life results is that they basically highlight a fundamental issue with laptops: you can't get high-performance and long battery life in the same package, for the most part. That goes doubly when it comes to 3D/gaming performance, as NVIDIA and ATI have been in an arms race where power use has been a secondary or even tertiary concern next to winning the performance crown. ATI's current desktop parts consume so much power that it is basically impractical to consider putting an X1950 type GPU into a laptop (though the X1950 Pro might be able to work with some modifications). GeForce 8800 doesn't do much better these days, and it might be awhile before we see a GeForce Go product based off the G80 chipsets. For now, the fastest laptop GPUs are the GeForce Go 7900/7950 GTX products, although if you want even more performance there are also some SLI laptops available.
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Ajax9000 - Sunday, January 7, 2007 - link
Some of us want a highly portable computer that can can drive a big screen at home or work. For us, a 13" or 14" laptop with (say) a Go7700+DL-DVI is actually way more useful than a 17" laptop with DL-DVI. Gaming isn't a priority for us and the 17" is too big for good portability and just gets in the way when used with a big screen on a desk.tinus - Thursday, January 4, 2007 - link
Why did you not include the Asus G1 laptop in the comparison, since you dislike the gpu on the G2 laptop? I would have loved to see a comparison between the A8js and the G1, since the only difference between the two ought to be the screen (both feature a Geforce Go 7700). Especially since you say that the screen on the G2 is so much better than that on the A8Js. If nothing else, I would much appreciate any comments regarding the G1 since i am looking a replacement for my current laptop, and the G1 seems to fit me perfectly.JarredWalton - Thursday, January 4, 2007 - link
Unfortunately, ASUS sent me the G2P - as I've frequently commented, we basically review what we get. I don't know why, as the G1 seems better overall. G1 is a 15.4" though, so the display may not be as good - without seeing it in person, I can't say, although I can put in a request to ASUS to get a G1 for review if you'd like. G1 also comes with either a 1280x800 (YUCK!) LCD or a 1680x1050 (HOORAY!) LCD - but if they're both more like the A8J LCD than the G2P then it's still sort of a wash as to which is best.tinus - Friday, January 5, 2007 - link
Thanks for the reply, but no, you do not have to request the G1, because I already found a review of it on another site, and they claim that it is the same screen as on the G2.And yes, the 1680x1050 screen would be perfect!
JarredWalton - Friday, January 5, 2007 - link
It can't be the same display, as the G1 is a 15.4" LCD and the G2 is a 17" LCD. Now, if it's the same quality overall, that would be good, and hopefully that's what you meant. :)tinus - Sunday, January 7, 2007 - link
Yea well.. you understand what I wanted to say ;)customcoms - Saturday, December 30, 2006 - link
on this page: http://anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=2899&am...">http://anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=2899&am...there is some mislabeling of the pictures (between the Asus G2P and the A8JS). It clear that this page is talking about the G2P but the article should still be fixed!
JarredWalton - Saturday, December 30, 2006 - link
This is the second image-related complaint, and again I'm a bit confused. Page 5 is definitely showing the G2P images, at least for me. I have no idea what you're seeing that convinces you otherwise, but please check it again and if you really aren't seeing the right images take a screenshot so I can figure out what you *are* seeing. Also, information on what browser and OS you're using could be helpful.yacoub - Saturday, December 30, 2006 - link
I found this review article very worthwhile. That Asus "gaming" laptop, however, is a joke with that GPU. =(Tommyguns - Monday, January 1, 2007 - link
I agree. Very happy seeing this review done. I've been looking at getting a laptop for awhile now and waited on the C2D's. Was gonna pick one up, but for the money vs performance, I was far too disapointed with the current GPU results. It seems there are reviews for all the desktop GPU's and graphed ect... but its impossible to get a clear understanding on the laptop side. X1600 was looking good. Perhaps a mass peformance testing of most of the current GPU's?Yeah, so basicly i am just really confused on how all these chips compare. Thanks for the review!