Movies

The Movies hub is identical to Shows but it contains movies from around the web. These are all legal sources of movies intermixed with stuff you have stored on your own network (more on how the network stuff works later). Unlike the Shows hub however, there just aren’t many relatively new feature length movies available for free on the web (legally).

Although the available movie selection isn’t nearly as current as TV shows, you do get more content. Currently the Boxee Box gives you movies from EZTakes, Indie Movies, MUBI, OpenFilm and YouTube Movies. Vudu is Boxee’s HD video rental partner of choice, however support isn’t enabled on the Boxee Box as of yet. You can rent via Vudu using the Boxee software on your Mac or PC though. With Vudu missing and Netflix coming, the majority of movies Boxee will find today are short indie films.

There’s room to grow on the movies side and if you find yourself watching independent films a lot online then Boxee might be a good fit for you today. For the mainstream however I don’t see the Movies hub getting much use until we get Netflix and Vudu support at least.

Networked Content

The Boxee Box has an integrated 10/100 ethernet controller as well as a Broadcom 802.11n WiFi controller. Either can be used to access web content, as well as content stored locally on your home network.

Up to this point I’ve mostly talked about what Boxee tries to do in terms of aggregating web content, but it’s similarly aggressive in finding stuff on your local network.

Through the Files hub you can tell Boxee to specifically look at and index certain file shares, but right off the bat Boxee displays everything that is publicly accessible on your network. This aspect of Boxee is very XBMC like. Just browse your network to where you keep your stash of TV shows and movies and you’re good to go. The interface is quick and logical.

Boxee really begins to shine however once you point it at a few locations on your network. I told it to index a shared RAID array in my main workstation, within minutes I had a nice library of local TV shows that I could watch. Based entirely on file names, Boxee goes out and fetches cover art, show and episode information for everything in my collection. I didn’t even have to lift a finger.

The same organization that Boxee uses on aggregated content from the web applies to content it finds on your network as well. That means under the Files hub I got a poster view of all of the TV shows I had on my computer.

We’ll get to how well it deals with various file formats in a moment, but the detection and organization Boxee offers is top notch. I don’t spend a ton of time organizing my content, I kind of throw it in the general area of where I want it to reside. Boxee cleans up after me, which is nice, it’s how technology should work.

You can add multiple network shares for Boxee to keep track of. Once added, Boxee will automatically try to categorize the content on your shares. Adding new content can be done automatically. By default Boxee scans all shares daily, although you can set that to once/never. The only downside to a daily scan is sometimes it appears to negatively impact stability, particularly if you don’t let a scan complete before putting the system to sleep.

There’s no option to scan even more frequently, which means you either have to force a scan if you want to watch something you just downloaded or you need to navigate to the content manually using Boxee’s file browser.

Boxee does require that you follow some basic rules when naming your files to enable its detection/categorization to work properly. TV shows should be labeled Show.Title.S##.E##.info.extension, Show.Title.#x##.info.extension while movies can be labeled Title.extension and Title.(YEAR).extension. Multipart movies are also supported, just add .cd# or .part# to the end of the file name. Coincidentally Boxee’s supported naming structure matches the way most pirated TV and movie content is distributed online. Fascinating.

We ran into some problems when playing back content stored over the network. On one occasion the Boxee Box refused to connect to any of our network shares, even though they were up, running and accessible from other systems. Restarting the Box fixed this problem.

There also appears to be a scheduling issue with the Boxee OS. Occasionally the file browser gets hung up on trying to grab a preview from whatever content you’re contemplating watching. If this happens you decide to back out using the menu button the entire system will freeze up. Progress indicators, remote, everything. At this point you can choose to pull the plug on the Box or wait several seconds for Boxee to sort itself out. It usually happens when you’re trying to play an odd file so thankfully it’s not something you’ll run into frequently, but it’s just a reminder that there’s still a pretty complex PC underneath the veil of simplicity.

The biggest problem of all is a rebuffering issue we saw with Blu-ray ISOs. The problem manifests exactly as it sounds. Go to play a Blu-ray ISO and you’ll get a few seconds of smooth playback followed by rebuffering for a couple seconds, then smooth playback again and rebuffering and the process continues over and over again. Boxee has already committed to fixing this problem in its next software update.

Attached Storage

You don’t need to have a giant network share to feed Boxee content. The Boxee Box has two USB ports and an SD/MMC card slot specifically for use with external storage. Once plugged in the external volumes appear in the Files hub and are treated like any other content source from that point on.

The Boxee Box had no problem reading from NTFS and FAT32 formatted external drives (HFS+ worked but I got an error before playback). They don’t have to be USB sticks either, I tried SATA to USB adapters attached to 2.5” SSDs without a problem. I also used a 16GB Patriot LX Series SD card with Boxee to play an episode of Mad Men without issue.

Trouble at the Main Event The Media Streaming Suite & File Compatibility
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  • krotchy - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    They must use the same electronics supplier we do at my work.

    "Oh we decided to buy 500,000 older revision PCBs because the forecast said to, even though you already pushed all of the paperwork for the latest PCB revision and we were told not to order the old one. We will just rework them until the existing stock is gone unless you want to pay us $2,000,000 to scrap them"
  • justaviking - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    For "average Joe" consumer products, I have ask myself, "Can I picture my wife using this?"

    I have to say, "No." She would probably make me return it within a week. Why?
    - Inconsistent behavior. Sometimes you do this, sometimes you do that, other times you do something else. Full-screen display is an example of that.
    - Lock-ups.
    - Bugs.
    - Sort of aggregated, but not really.
    - A naming convention for files on your network? I don't see that happening any time soon in my house. I might do it, just out of habit, but my wife or kids? No way.

    It's a good attempt.

    I appreciate the challenge Boxee is faced with, and I'd be happy to pull the plug on my cable bill too, but I don't see it happening yet.
  • Jackattak - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    Couldn't agree more. I would love to forcibly remove Comca$t out of our house, preferably kicking and screaming (mostly screaming), but this fails the wife test (and my wife is fairly tech-savvy).

    There has got to be a better way. This is not a consumer-ready product. This looked more like an alpha release review. Far too many bugs and far too little consistency.
  • Chillin1248 - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    From what I understand from Boxee, the reason behind the strange (and internet download full) naming strings is due to the IMDB service that identifies the movies and shows. This is completely separate from Boxee.
  • bernstein - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    Quote: "You can’t build a similarly capable HTPC with better power characteristics than the Boxee Box (simply because Intel won’t sell you a CE4100)."

    This is just wrong... go to to www.pandaboard.org (or heck even a beagleboard) and get a beagleboard friendly build of linux/xbmc and you've definately got a more power-efficient htpc... best suited for 1080p playback...
    and just how does a piece of hardware with 10w standby power have best power characteristics? heck not any notebook will consume anywhere near that power in standby...

    now nough harsh words. great article, as always. a delight to read.
  • ganeshts - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - link

    Why do you think Boxee went off from Tegra 2 to Intel CE 4100? And the Pandaboard you are talking about is OMAP4 based.. Surprise Surprise.. OMAP4 host CPU = Tegra 2 host CPU, and the power profile of both is approximately the same.. so the capabilities of both are going to be similar.. in other words, don't expect 1080p60 or any other complex encoding playback!
  • vhawkxi - Friday, November 26, 2010 - link

    My sister brought me one from Canada as South Africa is again looked over as a country where people would like to have the device.

    I just love it, so much better than the MVIX device I had to use as media streamer up to now.

    The networking works flawlessly and the 802.11 n wireless is more than sufficient to watch content in 1080p 24Hz.

    Contents is currently an issue but as soon as Hulu is up and running, I will have access to the source I have been using on the software version. So I am happy with that.

    The browser is still a work in progress but I assume it will eventually get there and allow nice browsing on my TV.

    So overall - even at $199 which I was more than happy to pay - it is a nice product with great potential - and it has already received 2 system upgraded in the last week. Much more than one can say of similar devices that gets bug fixes once or twice a year.

    Well done dudes - this may still be a winner !!
  • trip1ex - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    About as expected. IT's a device that wants to give the consumer something it can't deliver - free cable tv.

    It's telling that the article felt it had to have the same number of pros as cons. YOu can tell this is the case when one pro says "it can only get better."

    And another says, "they are pro-active at fixing bugs."

    I sense some allegiance to Boxee. Maybe because they are a small company. Or because they have a personal relationship with those at the company.

    In any case ....why wouldn't the folks who would tolerate bugs and problems just use a pc with their TV in the first place?
  • wadsworth - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    Love it. The new Thanksgiving firmware update fixed a ton of issues I had with 720p and 1080p non-MP4 codecs. The thing played everything I threw at it, from flv to mkv. The show/movie stuff was okay, but nothing compared to the "apps" component IMO. It is up to 142 web interface apps with everything from MediaFly to YouPorn. Heck, I didn't even know Sarah Lane was doing stuff with Leo nowadays. Moving through your own files is fast/smooth, unlike my WD TV Live.
  • saltyzip - Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - link

    Boxee has so much promise, but it doesn't deliver on the most important aspect which is speed and reliability, especially when it comes to HD content.

    I have evaluated the free downloadable version for the PC and posted my views on their forum, only to be flamed by the moderators for expressing my constructive criticism.

    No support for blu-ray or HD streaming is a big issue in my books, but the general reliability of playing any kind of content is really a hit and miss experience.

    I had crashing, videos only showing on half the screen, resolution not changing to reflect the media being played so was jerky.

    Why would anyone want to put this onto a TV in the living room, it would drive my misses nuts.

    It needs at least another year to get it right, but by then it will be too late.

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