CPU MT Performance: A Real Monster

What’s more interesting than ST performance, is MT performance. With 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency cores, this is now the largest iteration of Apple Silicon we’ve seen.

As a prelude into the scores, I wanted to remark some things on the previous smaller M1 chip. The 4+4 setup on the M1 actually resulted that a significant chunk of the MT performance being enabled by the E-cores, with the SPECint score in particular seeing a +33% performance boost versus just the 4 P-cores of the system. Because the new M1 Pro and Max have 2 less E-cores, just assuming linear scaling, the theoretical peak of the M1 Pro/Max should be +62% over the M1. Of course, the new chips should behave better than linear, due to the better memory subsystem.

In the detailed scores I’m showcasing the full 8+2 scores of the new chips, and later we’ll talk about the 8 P scores in context. I hadn’t run the MT scores of the new Fortran compiler set on the M1 and some numbers will be missing from the charts because of that reason.

SPECint2017 Rate-N Estimated Scores

Looking at the data – there’s very evident changes to Apple’s performance positioning with the new 10-core CPU. Although, yes, Apple does have 2 additional cores versus the 8-core 11980HK or the 5980HS, the performance advantages of Apple’s silicon is far ahead of either competitor in most workloads. Again, to reiterate, we’re comparing the M1 Max against Intel’s best of the best, and also nearly AMD’s best (The 5980HX has a 45W TDP).

The one workload standing out to me the most was 502.gcc_r, where the M1 Max nearly doubles the M1 score, and lands in +69% ahead of the 11980HK. We’re seeing similar mind-boggling performance deltas in other workloads, memory bound tests such as mcf and omnetpp are evidently in Apple’s forte. A few of the workloads, mostly more core-bound or L2 resident, have less advantages, or sometimes even fall behind AMD’s CPUs.

SPECfp2017 Rate-N Estimated Scores

The fp2017 suite has more workloads that are more memory-bound, and it’s here where the M1 Max is absolutely absurd. The workloads that put the most memory pressure and stress the DRAM the most, such as 503.bwaves, 519.lbm, 549.fotonik3d and 554.roms, have all multiple factors of performance advantages compared to the best Intel and AMD have to offer.

The performance differences here are just insane, and really showcase just how far ahead Apple’s memory subsystem is in its ability to allow the CPUs to scale to such degree in memory-bound workloads.

Even workloads which are more execution bound, such as 511.porvray or 538.imagick, are – albeit not as dramatically, still very much clearly in favour of the M1 Max, achieving significantly better performance at drastically lower power.

We noted how the M1 Max CPUs are not able to fully take advantage of the DRAM bandwidth of the chip, and as of writing we didn’t measure the M1 Pro, but imagine that design not to score much lower than the M1 Max here. We can’t help but ask ourselves how much better the CPUs would score if the cluster and fabric would allow them to fully utilise the memory.

SPEC2017 Rate-N Estimated Total

In the aggregate scores – there’s two sides. On the SPECint work suite, the M1 Max lies +37% ahead of the best competition, it’s a very clear win here and given the power levels and TDPs, the performance per watt advantages is clear. The M1 Max is also able to outperform desktop chips such as the 11900K, or AMD’s 5800X.

In the SPECfp suite, the M1 Max is in its own category of silicon with no comparison in the market. It completely demolishes any laptop contender, showcasing 2.2x performance of the second-best laptop chip. The M1 Max even manages to outperform the 16-core 5950X – a chip whose package power is at 142W, with rest of system even quite above that. It’s an absolutely absurd comparison and a situation we haven’t seen the likes of.

We also ran the chip with just the 8 performance cores active, as expected, the scores are a little lower at -7-9%, the 2 E-cores here represent a much smaller percentage of the total MT performance than on the M1.

Apple’s stark advantage in specific workloads here do make us ask the question how this translates into application and use-cases. We’ve never seen such a design before, so it’s not exactly clear where things would land, but I think Apple has been rather clear that their focus with these designs is catering to the content creation crowd, the power users who use the large productivity applications, be it in video editing, audio mastering, or code compiling. These are all areas where the microarchitectural characteristics of the M1 Pro/Max would shine and are likely vastly outperform any other system out there.

CPU ST Performance: Not Much Change from M1 GPU Performance: 2-4x For Productivity, Mixed Gaming
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  • taligentia - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    M1 destroyed its competitors in real world use. Performance/battery life was unlike anything we had seen.

    And companies like Davinci are saying that M1 Pro/Max continue this even further.

    So the idea that Apple is just doing this for benchmarks is laughable.
  • techconc - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    @goatfajitas Apple has never been caught cheating in benchmarks. You seem to confuse Apple with your typical Android OEM in that regard.
  • Lavkesh - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    Ignore him. Just a butt hurt troll with nothing else to do.
  • name99 - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    :eyeroll:
  • schujj07 - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    Basically the M1 is great in synthetic benchmarks but once you have to run applications it falls behind. Apple made this big deal about how their GPU could compete with the mobile 3080 at 1/3 the power all based on synthetic benchmarks. However, once the GPU is actually used you see it is only 1/3 as fast as the mobile 3080 in real scenarios. I also do not like the use of SPEC at all. It is essentially a synthetic benchmark as well. Problem is there aren't a lot of benchmarks for the Apple eco system that aren't like Geekbench.
  • SarahKerrigan - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    SPEC isn't a synthetic - it's real workload traces.
  • schujj07 - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    More like its "real world." OEMs spend hours tweaking their platforms to get the highest SPEC score possible. That really shows how SPEC borders real world and synthetic. I have been to many conferences and never once have the decision makes for companies said they made their decision based on SPEC performance. It is essentially nothing more than a bragging right for OEMs.
  • The Garden Variety - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    I did some googling and could not find measurements to back up your statements. I'm interested in learning more about how the M1's real performance is dramatically below the measurements of people like Andre, et al. I've relied on Anandtech to provide a sort of quantitative middle ground, and I'm a little rocked to hear that I shouldn't. Could you point me in the right direction for articles or some kind of analysis? You don't have to do my homework for me, just let me know where I could read more.
  • schujj07 - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    That is the biggest problem with the Apple eco system. Typical benchmark suites aren't useful as many of the programs either don't run on ARM or OSX. Therefore you are left with things like Geekbench or SPEC. I will be interested in seeing what the M1 Max can do in things like Adobe. Puget Systems has their own Adobe Premiere benchmark suite but the M1 Max hasn't been benchmarked, however, the M1 has. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Apple-M...
  • Ppietra - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    Puget Premiere Pro benchmark is in the article, though I would never classify that as CPU benchmark, nor Premiere Pro as particularly suitable to make general conclusions considering that it isn’t as optimised for macOS as it is for Windows.

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