Huawei & Honor's Recent Benchmarking Behaviour: A Cheating Headache
by Andrei Frumusanu & Ian Cutress on September 4, 2018 8:59 AM EST- Posted in
- Smartphones
- Huawei
- SoCs
- Benchmarks
- honor
- Kirin 970
The Raw Benchmark Numbers
Section By Andrei Frumusanu
Before we go into more details, we're going to have a look at how much of a difference this behavior contributes to benchmarking scores. The key is in the differences between having Huawei/Honor's benchmark detection mode on and off. We are using our mobile GPU test suite which includes of Futuremark’s 3DMark and Kishonti’s GFXBench.
The analysis right now is being limited to the P20’s and the new Honor Play, as I don’t have yet newer stock firmwares on my Mate 10s. It is likely that the Mate 10 will exhibit similar behaviour - Ian also confirmed that he's seeing cheating behaviour on his Honor 10. This points to most (if not all) Kirin 970 devices released this year as being affected.
Without further ado, here’s some of the differences identified between running the same benchmarks while being detected by the firmware (cheating) and the default performance that applies to any non-whitelisted application (True Performance). The non-whitelisted application is a version provided to us from the benchmark manufacturer which is undetectable, and not publicly available (otherwise it would be easy to spot).
We see a stark difference between the resulting scores – with our internal versions of the benchmark performing significantly worse than the publicly available versions. We can see that all three smartphones perform almost identical in the higher power mode, as they all share the same SoC. This contrasts significantly with the real performance of the phones, which is anything but identical as the three phones have diferent thermal limits as a result of their different chassis/cooling designs. Consequently, the P20 Pro, being the largest and most expensive, has better thermals in the 'regular' benchmarking mode.
Raising Power and Thermal Limits
What is happening here with Huawei is a bit unusual in regards to how we’re used to seeing vendors cheat in benchmarks. In the past we’ve seen vendors actually raise the SoC frequencies, or locking them to their maximum states, raising performance beyond what’s usually available to generic applications.
What Huawei instead is doing is boosting benchmark scores by coming at it from the other direction – the benchmarking applications are the only use-cases where the SoC actually performs to its advertised speeds. Meanwhile every other real-world application is throttled to a significant degree below that state due to the thermal limitations of the hardware. What we end up seeing with unthrottled performance is perhaps the 'true' form of an unconstrained SoC, although this is completely academic when compared to what users actually expereience.
To demonstrate the power behaviour between the two different throttling modes, I measured the power on the newest Honor Play. Here I’m showcasing total device power at fixed screen brightness; for GFXBench the 3D phase of the benchmark is measured for power, while for 3DMark I’m including the totality of the benchmark run from start to finish (because it has different phases).
The differences here are astounding, as we see that in the 'true performance' state, the chip is already reaching 3.5-4.4W. These are the kind of power figures you would want a smartphone to limit itself to in 3D workloads. By contrast, using the 'cheating' variants of the benchmarks completely explodes the power budget. We see power figures above 6W, and T-Rex reaching an insane 8.5W. On a 3D battery test, these figures very quickly trigger an 'overheating' notification on the device, showing that the thermal limits must be beyond what the software is expecting.
This means that the 'true performance' figures aren’t actually stable - they strongly depend on the device’s temperature (this being typical for most phones). Huawei/Honor are not actually blocking the GPU from reaching its peak frequency state: instead, the default behavior is a very harsh thermal throttling mechanism in place that will try to maintain significantly lower SoC temperature levels and overall power consumption.
The net result is that that in the phones' normal mode, peak power consumption during these tests can reach the same figures posted by the unthrottled variants. But the numbers very quickly fall back in a drastic manner. Here the device thottles down to 2.2W in some cases, reducing performance quite a lot.
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aebiv - Wednesday, September 5, 2018 - link
Benchmarking is incredibly important when people are planning and building systems, and by systems I mean those that actually support business. I'd argue you're right for most consumers though, as things are just "more than fast enough."That said, I'd still argue they're an important metric. Just might not be important to you.
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This is not helping the perception that Chinese manufacturers will cheat and lie to their customers. That's already a big problem for Huawei in western markets. I think they need to fire everyone responsible for marketing their phones to western markets and hire native teams who actually understand the customer base.SetiroN - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
You're confusing "the western markets" with the USA.Elsewhere people don't have such an obsession, actually they know American devices are probably more likely to provide backdoors.
shogun18 - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
The Chinese culture is synonymous with cheating. It's an *aspiration* to cheat and "put one over" their competitor and has been for for thousands of years. You're not going to convince anyone to play by "modern" Western notions of "fair and honest" benchmarks. Even so-called Westerners have put their values aside for the almighty buck in droves. Not to suggest criminal enterprises like the East India Company (of Britain) had any intention of acting in any civil/honorable manner from the get go. Human beings are for the most part filthy, rotten, scoundrels and far too many of them will gladly commit atrocities in the name of profit or something else. Cheating is basic human behavior.Therefore, you should ALWAYS expect humans to be dishonest. See Intel for a brazen example.
Thanks for doing the article. But I also have to wonder, are there really more than a 100 basement-dwelling morons who give a flying F about how fast a GPU is on a stupid phone? And furthermore play games on such pointless platforms where frame rates or triangles/sec matters? Seriously? PC Graphics cards from 10 years ago are still stupid fast. Phone games are throwaways. Sure, some publishers some how manage to make a tidy sum but it could run in CGA and people would still buy them to fritter away their boredom. If every Youtube ran in 360p nobody would give a damn. Oh some would bitch and moan but they'd still watch. And that's the point.
Graphics performance of the SoC is just dick measuring and the percentage of people who consider the number in their purchasing valuation metric is basically zero.
goatfajitas - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
American companies do it too.R0H1T - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
I agree with most of what you've said about the Chinese culture but let's be 100% clear - "fair and honest" is not a modern "western" notion!Entropyq3 - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
I care about SoC graphics performance, and would prefer valid data.I don’t live in a basement though, do I still count?
shogun18 - Tuesday, September 4, 2018 - link
No You're 1 in 10+ million consumers (out of just English-reading population) and therefore irrelevant except that you read Anand and/or Toms and such. :)skoondi - Sunday, September 9, 2018 - link
Utter rubbish